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Fred McGriff the Crime Dog


Fred McGriff the Crime Dog

Wow , I have no problem with any player who gets elected to the HOF , but really , you cant put in Bonds or Clemens or anyone else from that era? It's about time mlb just admits they allowed what was going on and elect the players who were superstars. Ty Cobb Beat a man with no arms senseless and still made the hall , not to mention Cap Anson who was against black players. Gaylord Perry passed away the other day and he admitted he was a spitball pitcher. I could go on for an hour more but I think you all get the idea , no one is perfect so lets just vote on the way they played. jmho

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I’m happy for Crime Dog. I was a fan in the 90s, even though he killed my Giants in 1993.

But a Hall without Bonds and Clemens is a joke, imo. I also think Schilling should be in, and I’m a lefty politically.

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I loved Fred McGriff, it's a great call for him to be inducted...

But unfortunately for me, the fact that Lou Whitaker is never taking to account by this dinosaurs commitee for the Hall of Fame is a disgrace...

He was clearly along with Ryne Sandberg the only fixture at his position in the 80's...

Lou Whitaker's WAR total is well ahead of Roberto Alomar, Sandberg, Biggio and its not a matter of him having more AB or Games played than the others...

He was simply that good and had huge impact on games...

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I also agree with Whitaker, and, as I've said before, Schilling.

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1984 Tigers are one of my favorite teams of all time . Won the series and had a team of great personalities and stories. One of the best stories was a little known player named Barbaro Garbey , he was a Cuban refugee who made it to America in a makeshift raft. You cant make stuff up like that , would make a good movie.

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I agree totally. 1984 Tigers were an awesome team and loaded with fun stories and great talent. Still can't believe "Sweet Lou" isn't in the hall of fame. The Tigers gave him a long overdue 'Lou Day' where a very well done ceremony before the game honored him. MLB needs to recognize what a great player he was and what he brought to the game. Also, fun fact: In the 80's, when Lou came up to bat, fans would cheer, "LOOOUUUUU". It almost sounded like they were booing him, but he and Tigers fans knew what it meant and how important it was to him. Lou needs to be in the hall of fame!!!

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All I'll say is that if Kirby Puckett is in the HOF, so should Don Mattingly.

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I’m a fan of Don Mattingly but Puckett had so many more great hitting seasons and Mattingly had many subpar fielding seasons while Puckett had 6 GG during a 7 season stretch.
Maybe he does not belong but I don’t think Ron Guidry never got a fair appraisal.

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I was a huge Mattingly fan that being said I kind of fall on the side of he doesn't belong in. If he had had 2 more high peak seasons then yeah but not as it stands now.
Mattingly played 14 seasons and was worth 3.8 war per 162 for a total of 42.4
Puckett played 12 seasons and was worth 4.7 war per 162 for a total of 51.2

Mattingly's defense was over rated 9 gold gloves but a career -6 dwar and only 1 season where he had a positive dwar

Puckett's defense was also overrated 6 gold gloves and a career -.3 dwar so there is that

I also used to be a vocal supporter of McGriff into the Hall but I have kind of soured on that as well

McGriff played 19 seasons and was worth 3.5 war per 162 for a total of 52.6
His defense was horrible he was a -17.3 dwar for his career

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Oh forgot to say Whittaker not in the Hall is a freaking crime against humanity